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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 09:07:00 -
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I'm a guy in real life, so I make all of my game avatars be guys. I never really understood why guys made female avatars until my friend told me that he would rather look at a girl all day than a guy. My only response was "Well if you're into animated characters . . . ". Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 09:10:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:I'm a guy in real life, so I make all of my game avatars be guys. I never really understood why guys made female avatars until my friend told me that he would rather look at a girl all day than a guy. My only response was "Well if you're into animated characters . . . ". You don't have to be into animated characters to enjoy what you're looking at. As for your sig... does that mean women don't have to post with their main?
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 12:32:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:Dream Kim wrote:Shizu Eisenkreuz wrote: - vast majority of adult males like the features most commonly found on super-models, pornstars or famous actresses
Untrue. Male tastes run the gambit and are in fact much looser than female preferences. Right. As an (European) man I can say I am not very attracted by most models or actresses. I am sorry but I do not find Megan Fox so sexy. Especially after her facial reconstruction. Without beeing offensive I believe that the most men loving such features are US-men. In no other country running around so many women and even young girls with chirugic changes faces or artificial breasts. Most of them very unnatural. So I find it a little bit presumptuous to say all (western) men like skinny women with big racks. Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:I'm a guy in real life, so I make all of my game avatars be guys. I never really understood why guys made female avatars until my friend told me that he would rather look at a girl all day than a guy. My only response was "Well if you're into animated characters . . . ". My reason to create and play a female character except for the reason of your friend: I like girls which compare sex appeal with independence, intelligence and toughness - in reality as well as in games or movies. So I would say a female capsuleer fits into this.
Its a shame really . . . how the rest of the world perceives Americans. You all really only see the cosmopolitan part of the American culture. I can tell you that living in the rural midwest of the US, things are a lot different. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 12:41:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:Dream Kim wrote:Aya Shinomiya wrote: Right. As an (European) man I can say I am not very attracted by most models or actresses. I am sorry but I do not find Megan Fox so sexy. Especially after her facial reconstruction. Without beeing offensive I believe that the most men loving such features are US-men. In no other country running around so many women and even young girls with chirugic changes faces or artificial breasts. Most of them very unnatural.
You've never been to Seoul, have you? Also ease up on the Ameribashing. It's getting really cliche. And this is coming from a Canadian. I do not want to start a conversation in this but Globalization means nothing else than Amerikanization (Henry Kissinger). This also includes the influences on world's cultures by the US-culture. Before everyone knew what Sushi was everyone knew what Coca Cola is, although Sushi is much healthier. So also these obsession with beauty comes from Hollywood and the USA in generall. I do not mean the American people with this. It is not their fault. They are also only victims.
You do realize that America is the melting pot of most other world cultures right? Its not our fault the rest of the world follows what we do, but since most people in Hollywood get their inspiration from other cultures maybe it would be better for others to change their perception of beauty instead of blaming America right? Or is that too easy? Also don't call us victims when in the same paragraph you say that we are the ones that lead world culture (which I highly disagree with). Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 13:06:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote: Not, it is not that easy. It is not my opinion only. I have heard the same opinion of many people which are much smarter than me when it comes to globalization. In short it is in nearly all globalized countries or cultures the case that the American view is dominant and pushes the national cultures and views back. You see it in the daily news, in the entertainment media, in the known international goods, in the language, in the politics and many others.
Well which is it? So far you have said that America is too new to have a formal culture yet now you say that our culture is enough to push national views out of the picture. Also here in America (and other stretches of the world, because Eve is a single sharded game so we have people in the Alliance form all over) there is national news and global news. We have news about other parts of the world too, because that is what news if for. Also we have entertainment from other walks of life (again, so do other areas of the world as per what my alliance mates have told me).
About 'English' being the 'Global language' I hate to break it too you but the UK have been speaking English for longer than the US has existed. That dates back to the British Empire.
And about international goods, a lot finished products that are shipped off of US soil are actually made in places like Mexico, Taiwan, Japan, China, and the list goes on. Seeing a product that is actually made in the US is a rarity these days.
And about politics, while I would have agreed with you 20 years ago now places like China and Israel actually more powerful, because all of the things America does is taken into great consideration as to not make those governments angry, to put it plainly.
I get the feeling that you have not gotten an updated view of the world as what you are saying pertains to the 60's and 70's. America is not the powerhouse that it used to be and is in fast decline. While we still hold a somewhat minor hold on what happens in the world, there are bigger dogs in the doghouse that even the US does not want to **** off. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 13:27:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:
I mean not the English language in generell. I mean the influences of Anglicisms.
That is true. But the products have a US brand. On most peanut butter you see the US flag and the Statue of Liberty.
You can be sure that my knowledge about the world, US politics and inner structure as well as knowledge about the system of finances and economics are up-to-date. Of course their is always subjektive own opinion.
Again fun fact: Anglicans date back to the British (and before)
That's an exaggeration, but to be fair I have seen food products that have a Canadian, French, Japanese, and English flag on them. Of course its not an everyday occurrence, but I do see them.
You sure have a skewed knowledge of the inner structure of America. I don't see how a country that has to raise its debt ceiling every few months is as powerful as you make it out to be. Also if everyone has their own opinion then why are you acting like yours is objective? Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:02:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Again fun fact: Anglicans date back to the British (and before). I give only back my opinion and the opinion of many people I met. Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: You sure have a skewed knowledge of the inner structure of America. I don't see how a country that has to raise its debt ceiling every few months is as powerful as you make it out to be. Also if everyone has their own opinion then why are you acting like yours is objective? This is a game forum. I will not start discussions about politics. I made this mistake once and this will only lead to anger and mutual insults. I do not fear a good discussion but this is not the place. And many thinks are hard to express in English if English is not your mother tongue. My point and my opinion are in this case: These beauty "ideals" coming from the USA (Hollywood etc.) through the Global(Amerikan-)ization. I am not alone with these opinion but based on my knowledge I came to the same conclusion.
Well based on my knowledge of what you seem to know about America you either see very skewed version of it. Although Hollywood may very well be a cultural hub it is still the machinations of many world cultures, just because it is on American soil does not mean that it is 100% American. To point out a similar idea, Geneva Switzerland is somewhat of a scientific hub yet Scientists of all forms go there for study and research, they are all not from one nationality and as such we do not grant all scientific achievements from Geneva to Switzerland. Also you say that you do not wish to discuss politics yet you still bring up this idea of 'Global(Amerikan-)ization'. Maybe you would have a better foundation to your end of the debate if you do not go back on what you said before in your very own post.
I know people from Germany and have quite a fair few internet spaceship friends from there who tell me all about their government, economics, and 'inner workings' as you like to call them, but that does not mean that I have enough information to form an educated opinion on the subject because I have not walked the life of a German citizen for a decent chunk of my life. No matter how much you think you know you really never know enough until you have experienced it for yourself.
Also you can stop spitting out that 'Americanisation' quote because Henry Kissinger made that book/novel/paper/essay in 1977 and even he himself has moved well beyond that idea. I would suggest reading up on some of his later books such as 'Oh China'. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:29:00 -
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Aya Shinomiya wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote: [...] Also you say that you do not wish to discuss politics yet you still bring up this idea of 'Global(Amerikan-)ization'. Maybe you would have a better foundation to your end of the debate if you do not go back on what you said before in your very own post.
I will remember that. Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:I know people from Germany and have quite a fair few internet spaceship friends from there who tell me all about their government, economics, and 'inner workings' as you like to call them, but that does not mean that I have enough information to form an educated opinion on the subject because I have not walked the life of a German citizen for a decent chunk of my life. No matter how much you think you know you really never know enough until you have experienced it for yourself. That is right. But I do not take my information from "ordinary" people alone like when I talk to people here. I only complete the picture and of course I like to speak with native people. But the fact is also that native people like Americans of the USA or Germans about Germany mostly have no idea what is going on in their own country or the world. It mostly lacks on the big-picture. Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Also you can stop spitting out that 'Americanisation' quote because Henry Kissinger made that book/novel/paper/essay in 1977 and even he himself has moved well beyond that idea. I would suggest reading up on some of his later books such as 'Oh China'. I only added Kissingers quote for completion. It is not so important. I set my opinion long before I knew what he said based on many sources and thinkings.
Ehh, perhaps I'm right and you're wrong, or you're right and I'm wrong, or perhaps the truth of the matter is somewhere in the middle, or so far off that neither of us are close. I do apologize for being so harsh but truth be told I just really don't like it when the greater America is blamed for things that are really just stereotypical. When you mentioned Hollywood I should have read closer and realized that you were indeed talking about Hollywood, which was entirely my bad, as Hollywood itself does bring on the image of the woman with enlarged 'attributes'. I, along with many people I know; however, do not agree with Hollywood's image of a woman.
But as I said before I do apologize for lashing out at you and do respect your opinion, as all of us are entitled to one. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
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